Posts by Fading Begins

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Thinking of having revenge on the jw girl

by spirituk in

hello again, following my story with this girl , and after she blocked me on fb and not answering my phone calls since december , i am now thinking of taking revenge.my feelings of pain are starting to become hate ,and pain always is accompanied by the feeling of revenge to satisfy this bad feeling.i just cant simply forget what shes done to me.

the reasons of my revenge :.

1.she played with my feelings when she knew from the start that she would leave me one day.

Fading Begins

Punkofnice - I appreciate your comment, but if Spirtuk is not being totally honest, then he would have absolutley no "evidence" to present about this sister, and we have no discussion. If he has physical proof of the dishonesty, hypocritical and premeditated heartless behaviour of this so-called sister, then I think he should send it.

To your question, no I do not know this particular sister, but in my many decades of being part of the borg, I have had dealings with many sisters like this, my sister being one. As I said in my previous comment - if this was the first time, I could overlook it, it's not - we know there's been at least two similiar situations, and their could be more, that we are not aware of. The fact that she bragged that the previous unbeliever still loves her, shows how shallow she is. My thoughts on this are not about punishment through the borg, its about stopping a shallow, egotistical, cruel person from hurting anyone else.

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Thinking of having revenge on the jw girl

by spirituk in

hello again, following my story with this girl , and after she blocked me on fb and not answering my phone calls since december , i am now thinking of taking revenge.my feelings of pain are starting to become hate ,and pain always is accompanied by the feeling of revenge to satisfy this bad feeling.i just cant simply forget what shes done to me.

the reasons of my revenge :.

1.she played with my feelings when she knew from the start that she would leave me one day.

Fading Begins

If this was the first time she did this to an unbeliever, and then having her "guilt attack" and learning from her mistake, then I would agree with the rest of the posters here. But its not, and this woman needs to reap the consequences of her actions, not out of revenge but out of justice. She is a "user", selfish and a hypocrite. She does this to unsuspecting "unbelievers", playing with their emotions, knowing from the beginning that she isn't going to follow-through with the relationship, and not caring who she is hurting. Many JW women have this notion that unbelievers don't count in the greater picture, so they can get a few thrills, and it pumps up their ego, and then they can go back into the warm little borg cocoon without a look back.

She has probably done this with other men online, but most would not travel from their country to hers, so she gets away with it. If there are no consequences, she will keep playing out this same fantasy without any guilt or concern for what she is doing to these men. I think you should wrap up your little parcel of goodies and send it off to her Kingdom Hall address. Nothing will happen to her, because there isn't "two witnesses", but it might make her think twice about pulling this cruel little stunt again. You can feel better, knowing you will have prevented this from happening to some other suspecting bloke. Then walk away and get on with your life. As you now know, she's not worth it!

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Do you blame Jehovah, Yahweh, God, Jesus, etc. for the corruption of the borg?

by Fading Begins in

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friends

do you hold god accountable for the corruption of the borg?

i've noticed there seems to be a bitterness, by some, that includes "god" in the equation, when discussing the borg and their policies, the governing body, elders actions, etc.

do the borg's transgressions originate with god, or does he feel the same disgust as we do?

Fading Begins

I love it Outlaw!!

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Do you blame Jehovah, Yahweh, God, Jesus, etc. for the corruption of the borg?

by Fading Begins in

jw
friends

do you hold god accountable for the corruption of the borg?

i've noticed there seems to be a bitterness, by some, that includes "god" in the equation, when discussing the borg and their policies, the governing body, elders actions, etc.

do the borg's transgressions originate with god, or does he feel the same disgust as we do?

Fading Begins

Everybody, thanks for all the great comments. As far as my own views I have felt that I always had a "relationship with Jehovah" (I know it sounds cheesy and a borg cliche) but I believe that God looks at organized religion as the anti-christ, whether it is JW's or Christendom, the moonies or the mormons. So I feel like we are falling into the JW trap when we let them make us bitter and blame God for their disgusting behavior and lies, arnd borgs hidden agenda is to turn us away from God. What do you think? Too far over the top?

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Do you blame Jehovah, Yahweh, God, Jesus, etc. for the corruption of the borg?

by Fading Begins in

jw
friends

do you hold god accountable for the corruption of the borg?

i've noticed there seems to be a bitterness, by some, that includes "god" in the equation, when discussing the borg and their policies, the governing body, elders actions, etc.

do the borg's transgressions originate with god, or does he feel the same disgust as we do?

Fading Begins

Do you hold God accountable for the corruption of the borg? I've noticed there seems to be a bitterness, by some, that includes "God" in the equation, when discussing the borg and their policies, the governing body, elders actions, etc. Do the borg's transgressions originate with God, or does he feel the same disgust as we do? Just interested in your thoughts .

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Rumor : Elders' meeting about pedophilia issues

by yalbmert99 in

hi everyone, there is a rumor on a french speaking forum saying that the elders were to assist to a 9 h meeting,yesterday or today depending on availability, about pedophilia exclusively.

meeting directed by an circuit overseer.

more infos to come.

Fading Begins

This was an unusual meeting for our area. The elders school is always held in a centralized city (within a hundred and fifty kms of everyone, but this was held in a bigger city supposedly at the assembly hall. Some elders had to travel over 300 kms. MS were not invited, and it lasted almost 9 hours. Seemed pretty urgent.

Was this just in Ottawa, Ontario? Anybody know of any other meetings held elsewhere?

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Rumor : Elders' meeting about pedophilia issues

by yalbmert99 in

hi everyone, there is a rumor on a french speaking forum saying that the elders were to assist to a 9 h meeting,yesterday or today depending on availability, about pedophilia exclusively.

meeting directed by an circuit overseer.

more infos to come.

Fading Begins

All our our English elders in eastern ontario went to all day elders meeting in Ottawa yesterday. (Sat.) No more info yet.

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Question about future enthusiasm of the congregations.

by Fading Begins in

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friends

i was the store manager of a large furniture store - part of a national chain.

we had large sales once month, and giganic four day sale every quarter with a large amount of print and tv advertising.

for these quarterly sales we would have conference calls every morning with our directors to report our numbers, contests for the salespeople, and target goals for each salesperson, individual store, and the national district.

Fading Begins

Gingerbread - that's exactly how I feel as well. Where the borg has gone wrong is there is no warmth or genuine caring in the congregation anymore. My Mom who wants me to go to meetings regularly again, will tell me multiple reasons why she's upset and "shocked" by the local brothers, but when I say anything negative, she closes her ears. I've come to the conclusion that at her age, there literally is "no other place for her to go" so I don't rock the boat to often.

But it was so much different 50 years ago, the congregation was much more loving, caring, showing genuine affection for each other. I think the change came when the society started to realize how much money they could make off the brothers, and it became a commercial enterprise instead of a source of spiritual love and support.

When all of the pre-75 jw's die, I think, then, you will see a massive decrease in the statistics, a result of the final loss of the "warm memories"for these faithful brothers, also the internet, and the educated, enlightened public, who scoff at women not being able to wear slacks to meetings and out in service, men not allowed facial hair, kids who are frowned on for wanting a higher education, and all the other unrealistic "policies" spouted by the borg.

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What were your favorite assembly foods?

by NoRegrets in

so i'm young enough to not remember having hot prepared meals at assemblies, but heard all about it from my parents and the like.

but what i do remember were all of the cold sandwiches and institutional snacks and soda.

remember the food tickets we started to use?

Fading Begins

I should mention, I was almost six at the 8 day international assembly in NYC in 1958. The sessions went from 9:00 am - 9:00 pm. My father had volunteered our family for food service, so my Dad, Mom, my four siblings and myself all arrived at the cafeteria site at 7:00 am - it was in a large white tent - and we all sat on little stools and peeled carrots. When we were done we were allowed to stand in the long cafeteria lines - in another large white tent - and had a hot breakfast, and also had supper for free. Looking back now, I understand that this was the only way we were going to get two meals a day, as we had saved every penny to drive there, get accomodations, and meals. I have to say, though, it was an amazing spectacle to see thousands of people in line for the various meals, never pushing or complaining - something I remember vividly to this day. I look back today, and wonder what happened.

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For those still "in"... is it just me?

by leaving_quietly in

jw
friends

i'm still "in" and i've noticed an odd trend recently.

conversations with jws seem to be more jw-ish than ever!

in normal conversation, i'll hear: "these watchtowers are just wonderful!

Fading Begins

Scotoma - I started a new feed after I read your post. I agree and wanted to comment, but didn't want to go off topic...